Hip Talk Forum About Hip Resurfacing

Athletes Corner => Running, Ironman, Marathoner => Topic started by: katekosar on March 15, 2011, 11:25:34 AM

Title: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: katekosar on March 15, 2011, 11:25:34 AM
Hi, guys.  Am scheduled for the BHR in April.  My range of motion in the left hip is pretty much nonexistent now.  I've transitioned from my two race bikes (Litespeed and Guru) to step-through Belgian commuters and finally to recumbent trikes, because I can't swing my left leg over the top tube any longer.  My race bikes miss me!  Will the range of motion post-op increase such that I'm able to throw my leg over the top tubes of my two favorite steeds?

Thanks for your responses.  This one has got me nervous.  As much as I like triking, I like speed too.  :)

kate
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: Lopsided on March 15, 2011, 11:33:48 AM
Quote from: katekosar on March 15, 2011, 11:25:34 AM
Will the range of motion post-op increase such that I'm able to throw my leg over the top tubes of my two favorite steeds?

Yup. But might take a few months to get there.

Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: halfdone on March 15, 2011, 11:40:24 AM
Based on my experience you should be fine.  But you may need to be patient and work with a good PT to get most of your ROM back, so don't worry if you are not back in the saddle right away.  Lots of good advice/comparative experience on this site.  IMHO don't rush after surgery, let things settle and strengthen, plan on months rather than weeks before you ride (fast) again and follow the protocols and advice of your surgeon.

Go Kate (landis) K !
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: FlbrkMike on March 15, 2011, 12:04:00 PM
Not an avid biker, though I do want to get back on my bike as soon as possible.

One effect that OA had on me (both legs) is that the feet were turned outward.  This made it very hard to ride a bike because my ankles would hit the cranks and it was hard to keep my feet on the pedals.  Because of this I haven't ridden for a couple of years.  This also, combined with losing the ROM of lifting my knees upward, caused me to stop using my erg (indoor rower) which was my main source of exercise for 12 years.

32 days after my LBHR and 4 days after my RBHR I'm obviously not yet back on the bike or the erg, but it's amazing to me how straight my feet now point.  Also, within a week or so of my first operation I could lift my left knee straight up from a standing position to about 90 degrees with no problem.  This was several inches higher than I could lift my right (unoperated leg) knee.  I haven't tried this with my new right hip yet, but probably will this afternoon with my first home PT session.
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: jjmclain on March 15, 2011, 01:23:05 PM
Hi Kate,

I am a triathlete, and therefore, a cyclist. I too got to the point, prior to my left BHR, where I had no range of motion left and couldn't lift either leg over the bike when dismounting. I could lift the right one over to get on and then needed friends to lift it back off for me! Or else I could lean against something and push away...it got to the point that I just stopped riding. I had my surgery 4 months ago. I plan to ride outside again probably at the 6 month mark when the chance of a femur neck fracture reduces. I see my surgeon at the end of this months and will find out when I will be allowed to ride and run again!

By the way, I now have back range of motion I did not have for 3 years!!!! You will be amazed at the change!

June
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: moe on March 15, 2011, 03:14:46 PM
Hi Kate, I am an experienced road and mountain biker, former racer. I had the same problem as you, could barely get on or off the bike, it was actually sad and funny at the same time. My pedal stroke was a mess also. I happy to say thay I have full range of motion, no issues whatsoever. Pedal stroke is back to normal. I sometimes think back to the days where I would finish a ride and practically lay the bike down to get off it. A fading memory now. One of my riding friends said the doc fixed me a little too good.  ;D

You should be back on that Tenn Ti in 6 months to a year. But go easy during your recovery, think long term.   Good luck and Giddy up!

moe
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: hernanu on March 15, 2011, 03:26:57 PM
Hi Kate,

Not a cyclist here, but a martial artist. I started my PT with my first HR at 35 degrees of ROM moving my leg sideways. After 6 weeks of PT (when I graduated), following their home stretching exercises and overall exercise regimen, I had 55 degrees ROM, with the norm being 45 degrees. This was probably because of my prior flexibility, which I though lost forever.

After my second HR, 3.5 months ago, my ROM on the right was initially 30 degrees for the same movement, It was 46 degrees when I left PT (after 4 weeks). So I don't think you'll have trouble doing things that the decreased ROM caused you to leave behind.

Before the operations, I could barely touch my hands below my knees bending forward. I can now touch my knuckles to the floor, still looking forward to the palms on the ground like I used to do.
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: sroberts on March 15, 2011, 04:03:58 PM
Hi Kate,

Yes you will be able to throw your leg over your racing bike. When you get the ok to ride outside you can always tilt the bike toward you so you don't have to lift it too far. I am 2+
years post op and about to begin our annual cycling/triathlon camps where we bike over 350 miles in 5 days here in Tucson and the hip is not an issue or even thought about these days. You'll soon return to hammering on your racing bikes. If you're ever in tucson, drop me an email.

take care,

spencer
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: toby on March 15, 2011, 05:23:14 PM
Kate,
I had a smile to myself when I read your posting and the group's great responses-just took me back...
Moe said "I had the same problem as you, could barely get on or off the bike, it was actually sad and funny at the same time. My pedal stroke was a mess also."
 
June-" I too got to the point, prior to my left BHR, where I had no range of motion left and couldn't lift either leg over the bike when dismounting. I could lift the right one over to get on and then needed friends to lift it back off for me! Or else I could lean against something and push away...it got to the point that I just stopped riding."

Mike-"One effect that OA had on me (both legs) is that the feet were turned outward.  This made it very hard to ride a bike because my ankles would hit the cranks and it was hard to keep my feet on the pedals."

Yeah, I had /went through all the above..did 52 Mile London Bikeathon 4 1/2 months post op all was perfect.
Good Luck
Toby


Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: einreb on March 16, 2011, 09:53:15 AM
I'm looking forward to actually being able to get in the drops!  I've to ride using the hoods and flipped a stem for more rise over the last few years with my bad leg only having 90 degree limit of range.

I would suspect (like the others here) that you will have great range of motion.
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: larry2458 on March 20, 2011, 08:44:57 AM
before the op i had no problem swinging my leg over my bikes, it was the 'ok' leg that i couldn't get over ?? post op both have been fine.without cycling i think my head would have been in bits.
i was adviced by the specialist to cycle right up to the day of the op if i could.
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: hipnhop on April 06, 2011, 11:40:05 AM
I was always embarrased because I could.not mount/dismount my bike like other triathletes.  I had a bike fitting and had to use a step ladder to get on bike. The fitter understood and manipulated the bike the best he could to accommodate my limited range of motion.

I would just unclip, lie the bike on the floor and step off. It def cost me time in transitions.  I am almost 3 weeks post op and real scared of riding.  I know I will get more confidence as I progress but honestly we all know that if you ride, you fall. I will be the one wearing football hips pads.
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: jjmclain on April 06, 2011, 02:49:12 PM
LOL!!! I had to have friends lift my leg over!!! Don't be in a rush to get outside on your bike...wait until the hip heals more! Ride on your bike trainer or a spin bike to help your range of motion. I just replied to another message of yours. I was just given clearance to ride outside and I am 4 1/2 months. I haven't done it yet...but will let you know how it goes when I finally get out there. If the weather ever warms up here, put your bike trainer outside, put on your IPOd, and pretend you are on the road!!!  No use risking a fall because you aren't that far out post-op. ;D
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: phillwad on April 15, 2011, 03:30:15 PM
What a group we are!!!!! 

When I did my endurance mountain bike rides I would have to lay the bike down and step over it, when I fell down I would need a friend to come over and unclip my peddle on the right side as I did not have the range of motion to twist off -  I would try and find a tree to stop by and rest rather than get off the bike - great stories.  When I got fitted for my new cyclocross bike I could not find a way on as the bike was on a trainer and could not be laid down - it was way to high.  I had to clip on with my left foot, move to top of stroke, jam on the rear brake and lift myself up so the "step over" was not very much - funny funy images  ::)

I did one race last year, about 10 hours of riding, when a lady and I were about the same pace - me faster going up hill, her skill greater (faster) coming down.  On one trail I pulled over to let her pass and lost balance just as she was by me - bang - tumble - we are both heading down the bank into the trees.  I ended up with my leg in a V of a tree and lucky I did not twist/hurt/break it.  The other rider had to come over and untangle me  She finished about 15 min infront of me and I found her talking/laughing to my wife about this "crazy Brit" who had "taken her out" on a trail.

I am looking forward to being able to swing my leg over and get on the bike like everyone else

Cheers - Phill
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: jjmclain on April 15, 2011, 03:33:54 PM
Phil- I was able to swing my leg over today! Wow..how nice to not have to make sure no one is watching!
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: katekosar on April 16, 2011, 02:47:18 AM
Hey, Congrats!!  I'm reduced to a recumbent tadpole trike these days.  No swing, just squat.   ::)  Surgery on 4/27 and looking forward to top-tube-type fast rides again (eventually).

Kate
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: phillwad on April 16, 2011, 07:15:28 AM
Good luck on the 27th

Cheers - Phill
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: resurface1 on April 16, 2011, 07:24:16 AM
Kate

Hi.  I am almost one year out now.  I did not have any of these issues.  But I have found that my IT band and hip flexors are not as strong as my non-operated side even through my quads are fully recovered [I think].  I mention this more as a note toward recovery and "everyones" approach to PT.  I am gong back to focus on these again so that I have a more balanced approach. 

I am not sure what to say about the flexibility other than stay with your professional PT if you insurance allows.  I am also curious - did you have a posterior or anterior lateral approach?

Best wishes...
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: katekosar on April 23, 2011, 01:24:47 PM
Well, I'm four days away from having it done, but I think Dr. Brooks is doing anterior lateral, FWIW.  As long as he gets rid of the chronic pain, I don't care which way he attacks it.   :'(

My IT band is all shot to hell.  It's so tight I could pluck it like a violin string.  Ditto for the flexors.  I will be working on stretching, stretching, stretching.  The capsule running along my shin is also aching, and it runs down over the top of my foot.  Hopefully, the hip resurfacing will resolve all these issues.  If not, well, we'll keep on looking for answers.  I have an Ironman to train for.   ;)

In the interim, one of my larger probably unfounded fears is that the whole left leg is going to seize up in one great spasm and stay there like a rock, from toe to hip.  It's happened before after long fully loaded touring days, lying in the tent at night.  Yeeeouch!  But if it happens at the hospital, I imagine they can do something fairly fast to relieve it.


kate
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: jjmclain on April 23, 2011, 06:21:46 PM
Good Luck Kate! Prior to surgery I ached all the way down my quad to my knee, shin, top of foot, etc... It disappeared after surgery! Except for the post-op surgical pain, all of the OA pain was gone! Which IM are you signed up for?! Keep us posted during your recovery.
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: halfdone on April 24, 2011, 07:55:27 AM
Hi Kate.  Good luck with the op!  Be sure to find yourself a a good experienced PT (when ready) to help guide you through the rehab and to work on any problems that have built up pre-op.  I have had only 3 sessions since my last op (I am now 3 months post-op) but my PT has done  :) magical  :) things to release tension in my quads, IT band and glutes.  BTW, though I'm not mainly a cyclist, the NE climate finally allowed this fair weather cyclist back on the bike two weeks ago - felt great!
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: katekosar on April 24, 2011, 08:02:40 AM
Hey, June.

Not signed up for IM yet.  I signed up for IMFL a few years back (after volunteering as a "catcher" at the finish line the year before) but couldn't complete the training b/c of The Hip.  (I'm going to have to give The Hip a name.)  So I figured rather than blow another five hundred bills, I'd chill and do the training first this time ...

The only Ironman I'm chasing is the one that's been in my head and heart for lo! these past 15 years.  It seems like two steps forward and three steps back.  But 16:59:59 is my mantra, y'know?  Something that has to be done.  I'm thinking IM New Orleans or maybe Louisville, something with an interior swim and flattish for the first time out.  Suggestions?

Thanks to youse guys for the two good read suggestions -- auto bio of Madonna Buder and the Hoyt team.  I ordered them today on "fast track" from Amazon and should have 'em for recovery reading.  If anyone has any other rehab/recovery inspirational jock-type Ironman reading suggestions, please let us know.  

This IS my fresh start.

Take care,
Kate
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: halfdone on April 24, 2011, 08:33:56 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Endurance-Shackletons-Legendary-Antarctic-Expedition/dp/0375404031/ref=pd_sim_b_1

Great story, terrific book, amazing photography.  Written by a talented lady who was modern pentathlete and is classics scholar.
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: katekosar on April 24, 2011, 08:39:24 AM
Thanks, Half.  Added to the overnight shipping rush order.  Appreciate the suggestion.  I am a very early morning reader ... left over from law school days with a couple of toddlers to boot, no doubt ... but 2 am to 4 am is "my reading time."  I suspect it will be verrrryy quiet at the hospital at that ungodly hour, but good books have always carried me through.

Take care,
kate
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: halfdone on April 24, 2011, 08:47:43 AM
Ha! Enjoy the reading....but don't be surprised if you fall asleep a lot when reading.  Many of us (even the fittest) were surprised at how TIRED we felt in the weeks post-op.

Here's my other post-op suggestion.  A pair of wireless headphones for the TV, so that you can while away some of those mid night hours without waking up the family.  :)
For example.
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-RS110-Over-Ear-Wireless-Headphones/dp/B0001FTVEA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1303649173&sr=8-2
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: phillwad on April 24, 2011, 09:13:10 AM
Kate

When I had may surgey done Dr Brooks had a bunch of people in that day - I am sure it will go well  If you are awake beteern 2 and 4am you will be the happy face for the lady that comes for the blood draw at 3:50 - "so it can be ready for the Doctor's rounds" - they woke me up each day  :(

Cheers - Phill
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: phillwad on April 24, 2011, 09:17:43 AM
kate - another good book is "Grace to Race" anout a Nun, 78 years old doing Ironman event - enjoy - Phill
Title: Thanks!
Post by: katekosar on April 24, 2011, 09:50:29 AM
Got my headphones for my compy already ... way ahead of the curve there.  Don't really watch a whole lot of commercial TV but am planning on hitting the library for a ton of DVDs tomorrow evening.  :)

Madonna Buder the Nun is my hero. 

Phill -- I can't for the life of me imagine why some poor phlebotomist would want to draw blood at that ungodly hour of the morning, or what the doc would want to test for daily.  White blood count?  But I'll be happy to oblige ... what the hey. I'm not hoping for a big team of residents and interns to come parading through, but am so psyched that I'll take on all comers at this point, just git 'er done.

FWIW, I was sold on this entire concept when Brooks took a couple drops of water, stuck in the acetabulum cap, and spun the little ball around like a gyroscope.  Maybe a cheap marketing trick, I dunno, but I bit hook, line, and sinker.  I couldn't believe the way that puppy spun around in its cap.  :)

kate
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: jjmclain on April 24, 2011, 03:19:45 PM
Kate,

Smart move...once you are up to it, you can volunteer at one of the races and then be able to sign up for the following year. The way the IMs fill up these days, that is the best way! I did IMFL back in 2006...it happened to be very cold that morning, rough ocean, winds on the bike, but the run was nice and flat! Not the usual conditions for IMFL but it was a lot of fun! Just a rough day condition wise! It would be great if all of us Surface Hippys that race could do the same one and have a reunion!!!

Good Luck to you and keep us posted!

June
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: ScubaDuck on April 26, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
Kate-

I definitely don't recommend IM-Penticton.  I did it back in the old days.  The lake is very cold and the climbing on the bike was challenging.  But boy was it rewarding.  I qualified for Hawaii but couldn't go because I was young and poor.  I would love the chance to "tri" it again.  I am just glad to be able to think about running again. 

And I have had the same thoughts about the time - 16:59:59 would be fine.

I have three more months to surgery so I will be a year from even being able to run.  But at least there is hope again.

Dan
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: jjmclain on April 27, 2011, 07:51:48 AM
Dan,

You will get back to Kona! I am 5 months post-op now and my teenage son said to me yesterday...Mom, when you race in Kona again I will cry!!!! It shows our families know what we have been through and are there every step of the way. I told him that I would cry when I raced again...doesn't matter if it is Kona, an IM, or a shorter triathlon, I will be happy to toe the line again!

Keep your strength prior to surgery and you will come through just fine!

June
Title: Re: Cyclists: Range of Motion Question?
Post by: gary2010 on April 27, 2011, 08:26:06 AM
Good luck Kate, and welcome to the club!
G