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David

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NY Times article...
« on: October 01, 2011, 03:30:52 PM »
NY Times continues with their articles about failures...
How about a positive article about the overwhelming majority for a change?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/01/health/01hip.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha25
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2011, 03:54:09 PM »
David,

I think the metal reaction is the one big scary unknown about Metal on Metal resurfacing.

You are right it is fine they publish stories about the possible problems, but what writting about the other 98% percent that have 5+ years of mobility and improved quality of life?  Many of them right here on the this site.

But when you see this the number history in the article 5000 issues out of 500k done have the reaction that is 1%.  My Doctor was very clear if you do get a reaction it is in the first 1-3 years and need to be aware of the symptoms.

Matt 


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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2011, 03:59:15 PM »
The journalist had to search hard to find Dr. Young-Min Kwon, a surgeon that is not known, at least on this board, as a hip specialist.



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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2011, 05:23:07 PM »
We are all aware of the issues connected with metal on metal.  I actually appreciated the article, because it reminds me to continue to be vigilant of my resurface.  I'm on month 7 and have not had any major issues.  I am gradually working myself back into shape and plan on starting a running workout next Spring.  I don't want to become too complacent though.  There are now pieces of metal in my body that were not there originally.  That metal may very well have to come out one day and by then, I hope there will be better materials and procedures available to either replace or to resurface my hip.  In the meantime, I'm continuing with my plan to get back to a healthy lifestyle, while staying watchful of myself and what's happening out there with research into metal hips and resurfacing. 

Mac
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2011, 06:31:20 PM »
Okay, I for one am very alarmed by this article, since I am ten times higher than the safe zone, which I just found out when my plasma results came back from Toronto, this Monday. It has been 4 1/2 years since my BHR, performed in Hong Kong by an Australian doctor.

I now live in Vancouver and the Toxicologist at the hospital says I am the second he has seen with high levels. The other person happens to be a doctor or surgeon at  the hospital.

Anyone NOT concerned about this, with no disrespect intended, is foolish.
This site is absolutely fantastic, as long as it isn't run by Birmingham related doctors etc, and remains truthful.

I have great hope when reading all the excellent success stories, still for those of us with some problems, reading about those is important too.

Thank you for posting this

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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2011, 08:21:41 PM »
Having taken the time to read up on his background, I think one should be careful about questioning Dr Kwon's expertise in the field of problems relating to MOM hip arthroplasties. If you have the time, I am attaching a link which includes a video of a grand rounds presentation that he did on the research into soft tissue reactions with MOM bearings. It contains information that many of us are familiar with, but is very thorough.
http://achesandjoints.org/2011/01/19/young-min-kwon/
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2011, 09:58:08 PM »
Like all of us, I think we all keep an eye on this issue as a possibility, but not the norm. I probably will insist at some point that I have a test for metal levels, since it is a serious consideration. I feel for you, cwg and anyone who is dealing with this.
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2011, 09:59:16 PM »
Thanks for posting the link. Balanced and objective presentation.
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David

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2011, 11:33:49 PM »
I just viewed the entire presentation by Dr. Kwon that John C had posted...
http://achesandjoints.org/2011/01/19/young-min-kwon/
I'm even more pissed off now at the NY Times story.
The failures that are noted are right in line with the current protocol for general hip resurfacing candidates.  Please watch it for yourselves before initiating any new found panic. 5 out of the 6 affected were small boned women, blah, blah, blah.  Same shit you and I already know.
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2011, 02:00:27 AM »
John,

Thanks for posting Dr. Kwon's presentation.  Very informative.  My cup angle happens to be 32 degrees, which is just barely within his 40 degree, plus or minus 10 recommendation.  I know no surgeon or device is perfect and I will continue to keep an eye on the research being done on MOM.  In the meantime, if my other hip should need surgery (and I'm told it will in a couple of years), I would go ahead and get another hip resurface (and probably by the same surgeon), based on the information available today.

Mac
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2011, 02:53:04 PM »
Metal on metal and ions are a viable issue for anyone considering surgery to research.

BUT, what is the alternative?  If you are u der 40 yrs old.... Or even under 50... And you are in massive pain, and NEED hip surgery, whether you do THR or HR, What other implant is available now that could perform and LAST as long as a MOM implant?

I know they have tried plastic on metal, and there have been issues with plastic debris causing problems.  Ceramic?

I researched the metal ion issue, but felt there wasn't much alternative to HR if I wanted to have surgery. 
Sean
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2011, 03:32:39 PM »
Good news doesn't sell newspapers

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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2011, 04:47:43 PM »
It is a long dialogue given by this Dr. Kwon, and I have just got round to listening to it. Dunno who else has. I am not sure if the journalist who wrote the article has listened to it, because his article does not show it. In fact, his article states 'but specialists like Dr. Kwon are also seeing growing numbers of patients with complications,' whereas the video dialogue, Dr. Kwon talks about the statistics from his research of other surgeons and registries.

In his dialogue, Dr. Kwon broadly says that pseudo-tumors arise from edge loading (there you go, 40 minutes condensed). And to counter this, there should be good choice of patients, proper placement and good choice of device. He seemed to think that choice of patient was the most important, but he did not say why that should be.

So I am still with the opinion that proper placement is the most important.

The New York Times must be hard up to have printed that article.





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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2011, 05:13:43 PM »
If you will notice, all of these negative articles have ONE thing in common.  The Author, Barry Meier.  I have personal experience with the guy.  He ONLY reports and write HALF truths and leaves out very important facts. He is KNOWN for this and has at least a half a dozen of these articles over the years that all leave out the most important info, anything pointing to the real reason behind the failures, surgeon error, or malpositioned components.  I have learned to pretty much ignore anything that Barry Meier writes now.  I even address him personally now on my website, at first I had a certain writer of the NYT, but now I have had enough of him so I recently changed it and put his name.  He interviewed me for over an hour for his first article and left out most of what I said and ONLY put in the negative.  He promised me he would be unbiased and write both sides and asked me for the name and contact of one female with a femoral neck fracture and one female with a success story.  So I sent him Kathy Bird's info which he wrote about in length in his Women and Red Flags article about resurfacing being bad for women and guess what?  He NEVER even contacted the gal I sent him the info for that had her BHR for 12 years and was running and back to living life fully and super happy.  Never even tried to email or call her.  The guy is a joke!  Anytime you see another article in the NYT, just look to see if the author is Barry Meier.

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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2011, 10:06:47 PM »
I think most of the top resurfacing surgeons regularly test their patients for metal ions.  My friend who had this surgery 7 years ago (and referred me to Dr. Gross), had one of her follow up appointments with Dr. Gross about a month ago.  She is a small boned, extremely active female.  No metal ion problem.  I agree with so many of the previous posts - get the facts, make the best decision you can, pick a very good surgeon, and then keep an eye on things.  There is no joint replacement surgery of any kind that is 100% risk free!
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2011, 04:50:33 AM »
CWG - what will you do when the THR stem starts warbling out of it's socket because you ran too much on it? 

Nothing's perfect, so who do these guys work for? Kwon's presentation seemed a touch spun to me.  I've read a bunch of papers and it's all the same hype which is based on about the 2% to 4% revision population.  As Lop points, it's based on sugeon error and placement.  Why aren't the journalists writing about all the failed THRs in young people, how about in the older people for that matter.  Oh that's right, I forgot, House MD had a show MoM failure, it must be right then.

The new history of MoM issues (summarized below and obviously simplified), starts in August of 2010
 
ASR has problem
frothing attorneys jump on a class action lawsuit
a bunch articles come out about it
CBS has a show on House MD about it (Feb 2011)
FDA asks for more data on MoM athroplasty, but not due to ASR, due to the MoMs getting approved in the 1970s before the newer rigorous methods were in place, they just need more data
NY Times has a few exciting articles on the topic
here are today and people are getting scared away from MoM HR. 
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2011, 05:04:44 AM »
Hey, So I am new in here. just found it the other day. I am scheduled for resurfacing on Monday9/10.
After years of exercise, training "alternative" remedies etc etc. Long time with pain and trying to work it out.
Found out last year That I am bone on bone with spurs and I actually ground a little extra in my socket. I cycle 20 miles a day an do posture alignment therapy. So.. It has become too much to manage. I am 42 with small children. Finally worked through all the mental blockades and feel complete that I have done everything I can for myself.. Ready to go.. This article Freaked me out. Set me way back. Anyone have this procedure done more than 5 years ago? I've read some positives and share similar goals with some of you. I know what media is all about. At the same time my confidence level has dropped. I know a full replacement is not for me right now. I am just hoping this will last more than 3 years. I'm also reading people monitoring the situation. Is that constant blood work? How will we know if it has gone too far. I am guessing most of you, like me, have a great tolerance for pain. will a little pain be too far??? I would love input from a long time resurface. Please.

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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2011, 09:10:20 AM »
Jason, before my surgery, my surgeon said I had a ninety nine percent chance of it lasting ten years (as his success rate is 99%, higher than many surgeons). I said that was not good enough, I want fifty years.

And I still do. I can only see that a good device placed by a top surgeon should last indefinitely.

D.




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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2011, 12:26:49 AM »
Wow- JASON, don't know what to say.. except I think I really did not, 1000%, need a hip surgery of any kind, performed. Sounds like you do.

 I lived in Hong Kong and "optional" surgery is rampant.
 Never did I hear 'you MUST have something done'. I had pain and problems, yes, but hindsight shows me I have problems through out my spine (cervical stenosis etc) None of them materialized until after. Immediatly after.

In my humble opinion, and with metal levels 10 times the "recommended", I  still think you should go through your surgery.. and with confidence.   

I now  believe I was not a 'good candidate'. My fault and responsibility

You have exhausted everything. Move forward with certainty (positive attitude).

Breakaleg as they say in my work world

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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2011, 12:41:09 AM »
Jason, I'm not personally a long term resurface, but the lady who referred me to Dr. Gross had her surgery 7 years ago.  She is an extremely active female, and had a follow up appointment with the doctor about a month ago.  He checked the placement of her devise, was very happy with it, and tested her for metal ions.  There was no problem. 

Go for it with the best, most experienced surgeon you can find!
Annie/ Right Uncemented Biomet 4-20-11/Left Uncemented Biomet 10-12-11/Dr. Gross

 

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