Tested the new hip with a little BJJ

[hernanu]

One thing that people have had issues with, especially early on, when the muscles are not yet fully strong is anything that replicates the motion that the doctor did when dislocating the hip to loosen it so he/she could do the HR.

So early on, movement that aggressively turns your toes into your body and heel out is copying that movement (if I'm wrong, please correct). I think this is one of the reasons for the limitation some surgeons put on crossing the midline of the body early on.

[Dannywayoflife]

Ok Hearn I'll bear that in mind. I plan on being quite conservative for the first 6 weeks then gradually doing light strengthening stuff. And lots of massage to break down the scar tissue. 

[Nemesis]

Thats good to know ill make sure i really work on the stableiseing muscles!

What is really helping me is high rep work, perfect form and control, working stabilizing and glute muscles. This entails abduction, adduction, kickbacks, and calf raises to name a few.  Again very light and easy after at least 3 weeks of doing nothing but walking.

Don't think of the weight. When I started I was working out it was with 1 measly plate on the adduction machine for a set of 12. I did not increase the weight until I could do 20. This is from a guy that would train with 315lb for reps off a 12 inch high box with ease. (this also probably led to my hips being destroyed but that is another story.  Leave the ego for when you go on long walks.

[Dannywayoflife]

Roger that nem. I'll bear that in mind.

[Nemesis]

Before I got my hr I was looking for anyone with a grappling background to see how they made out and I found none. For the benifit of all I decided to continue documenting my recovery. Well I have had small short burst of pain from attaining a new position in everyday life but no soreness. I have been hesitant to hit the mats again since my last time and feeling the strong shot of pain.

Fast forward to last week and I find out of a seminar that Kurt Pelligrino and another Pan American champ are giving at my old school cheap. I tell my son to sign us up. I attended today thinking I will take it easy staying away from throws and takedowns. Well Kurt Pelligrino didn't get the memo of my hip resurfacing and starts of with 30 minutes of takedowns. REALLY!!!  Anyway 2 years of no takedowns and I was still doing better than most. My son even commented, "I knew you weren't going to have a problem taking people down". Thank god for muscle memory.

Then we did an hour of ground work. Yes I still can grapple. My son commented, "Your hips were a little stiff and it looks like your trying to avoid pushing off your feet." Shut up kid who asked you.

Now to the good. No pain. Stiffness yes. But joint pain no. It did hurt my scar when it was weighted but not the joint. My hip flexors are going to be sore and stiff. I do have some joint soreness but more in the non operated hip. In the HR hip almost nothing.

[PistolPete]

How far along are you since your surgery?  I'm 11 weeks and next week I'm going to do a bit of light BJJ training.  I will roll at about 25% or so and will only train with 2 guys at my school because they won't try going any harder and will allow for a slow roll.  I will do technique so long as it's simple things and not butterfly sweeps or anything.

I actually found someone that is a BJJ blackbelt that is 6 months post op from HR surgery and he's been helpful.  He said he's back to training about 80% or so and feels pretty good.  He said triangle chokes and belly down armbars seem to put the most stress on his new hip so he's been avoiding those.

I won't be doing any takedowns for at least 1 year as the stress of slamming the mat could cause some issues I'm sure.

[hernanu]

That is too cool, Nemesis. You know the little one is going to bust you every opportunity, right? The scar thing is probably scar tissue - just keep checking everything, but I'm glad you're back to grappling.

[hernanu]

How far along are you since your surgery?  I'm 11 weeks and next week I'm going to do a bit of light BJJ training.  I will roll at about 25% or so and will only train with 2 guys at my school because they won't try going any harder and will allow for a slow roll.  I will do technique so long as it's simple things and not butterfly sweeps or anything.

I actually found someone that is a BJJ blackbelt that is 6 months post op from HR surgery and he's been helpful.  He said he's back to training about 80% or so and feels pretty good.  He said triangle chokes and belly down armbars seem to put the most stress on his new hip so he's been avoiding those.

I won't be doing any takedowns for at least 1 year as the stress of slamming the mat could cause some issues I'm sure.

Good strategy Pete - remember that 12 weeks is when the femoral neck is the weakest, so take care of that.

[Dannywayoflife]

Nem thats awesome mate! I cant wait to be able to grapple again!

[Nemesis]

How far along are you since your surgery?  I'm 11 weeks and next week I'm going to do a bit of light BJJ training.  I will roll at about 25% or so and will only train with 2 guys at my school because they won't try going any harder and will allow for a slow roll.  I will do technique so long as it's simple things and not butterfly sweeps or anything.

I actually found someone that is a BJJ blackbelt that is 6 months post op from HR surgery and he's been helpful.  He said he's back to training about 80% or so and feels pretty good.  He said triangle chokes and belly down armbars seem to put the most stress on his new hip so he's been avoiding those.

I won't be doing any takedowns for at least 1 year as the stress of slamming the mat could cause some issues I'm sure.

I had my surgery 06/06/11.  If you read the previous posts you will get a little backround.  I would really wait more than 11/12 weeks.  I waited 15 weeks before a "test run" but I am a very experienced athlete with my body.  I also did TONS of rehab.

There are many takedowns that are not hip or over the head throws.  I will be staying away from them permanently.  Simple trips that give you an advantage is all I will ever be doing.   

[Nemesis]

Last night my non operated hip was sore.  Wasn't sure if it was my lower back, hip, sciatica, or combination.  Anyway I couldn't sleep.  Went to an excellent Chiro and he said my hip bone was out of sync.  I was so twisted I was having problems walking straight.  I had an aggressive adjustment and felt so much better.  Attributing everything to my core not being ready for the takedowns and positions I still know how to do.

[Nemesis]

Last night I slept fine.  Today I took an easy beginner class.  I DID GREAT.  I didn't do some things as I want to go back slow.  I was very upset getting myself in good positions only to say, "what do I do now?"  A far cry from when I had to decide which move I wanted to do.  NO MUSCLE MEMORY on the ground. 

Operated hip is fine.  Very Very Light discomfort.  No joint pain.  NON-Operated hip is hurting. :-[  If I don't make it back it will be because of non-operated and not wanting to go under the knife again.  I am certain it would be a success but with the grappling I was pain free.  I worked out with weights.  I did grueling cardio stair sessions.  My non-operated and operated hip were fine.

[hernanu]

Sounds great, Nemesis. Funny that the ground muscle memory is tough now. You'll get it back, but it might be associated with the smaller muscles for the more intricate moves.

[Nemesis]

Sounds great, Nemesis. Funny that the ground muscle memory is tough now. You'll get it back, but it might be associated with the smaller muscles for the more intricate moves.

My problem is like amnesia. I can get myself in good position.  Before I would have to decide what route I wanted to take to finish out of a few different options.  Now I am finding myself forgeting about what I can do.

[Dannywayoflife]

Yeah I know what you mean nem when you have to think where do I go from here you never seem to be able to get a submission. Everything has to flow and come natural. At least that's what I've always found. I'm going to be so so rusty when eventually I get back to the mat I'll of been out of grappling for 2.5 years by then!

[Nemesis]

Did live grappling again. I have gotten absolutely swamped at work and my son hurt his knee. If he doesn't go to BJJ then I make sure I get him to the gym to work on his strength. Also I have been having very minor groin discomfort. It is not even enough to take an ibuprofen.  My recovery has been great and without pain but it scares me as I never had it.

Well grappled with a purple belt. His right knee was bothering him so I told him I would only go to his left side. Very hard to pass a purple belt when he knows you are going left and you refuse to grab his right knee.  Anyway I out pointed him.

I then went with a brand new guy but a solid young man. Quick work of him but at One point my hip was at a "different angle And I felt as if my HR was grinding for a couple seconds. Very scary.

During the warm up I felt new movement and angles in the hip. I knew I was going to be sore in the hips so I took an anti-inflammatory.

[Dannywayoflife]

Sounds like your doing well mate but please take it slowly if your having issues like you describe.

[Nemesis]

Will next morning all was well. A little tightness and very slight soreness but no were near as bad as my first grappling session. Did the bike for 15 min and some minor stretching to get blood moving.

[Dannywayoflife]

Niceone nem, I can't wait to get back on the mat. I think that my ROM needs to be 100% before I return.

[Nemesis]

I did 30 hard minutes on the eliptical without pain a few days ago. Today I worked out my legs with:
6 sets of leg presses for 30 reps
3 sets of leg curls
4 sets of leg kickbacks
4 sets of abduction ( legs out )

I did all this after a 10 minute ride on a bike