leFT HIP OA BETWEEN GRADE II-III 28 YEARS OLD. THR OR HIP RESURFACING?

[chocolatedrop29]

thanks for the reply sal and tin!

well im already in depressed state. no alcohol on me either. i dont drink so i think i  pass that bit. i know people that have problems or stressed from work, take it out on the alcohol.

i've just been to that surface hippy forum on yahoo. i read that some patients are getting "back problems" since resurfacing by even the top surgeon in the world.

any issues on the ongoing back problems?

its kinda freaky and surprising.

anythoughts? could it be on poor posture, gait, feet problems and compensatory problems on having OA pre surgery?

hope everyones well!

[hernanu]

I can only speak for myself, jc - I had back problems before the surgeries which went away afterwards. Along with my knee pain, rock tight shoulders and overall pain.

[dav0]

Hello mate,

Sorry to hear what's happened.  I'm going through something similar - 29 year old police officer, tore my labrum grappling with someone who didn't want to be searched, had a hip scope to repair the damage which found a patch of grade 3 arthritis in there - and can't really say I've ever been the same since.  My whole life revolved around being active - like most of us on here - and now that's gone, it's hard to know what to fill the void with.

I'm only at the start of getting my problems sorted, but in relation to the back pain, it does seem to be that hip pain can refer into the lower back (I couldn't sit down without feeling like someone had knifed me in the back when I tore my labrum - that came before the groin pain!) and that a messed up gait will screw up your SI joints and lumbo-pelvic stability.  I think residual back pain from any surgery is more likely as a result of faulty movement patterns than pathology, so it can be corrected with time and effort.

As for alcohol, well, I have an addictive personality and find it very easy for drinking to become habit so avoid it because of that, but I also think it is an inflammatory as normally when I drink socially, I feel OK at the time, but the next day my body feels like its been hit by a bus (as in achy hips, not being hungover... well, ok, maybe a bit of both then :))

There's loads of faddy diets on the net (paleo diet, for example) that some people swear by for reducing inflammation, but I can't say I've ever tried them.

I know what you mean about the mental battle.  I have only been dealing with this for a year but still can't get my head round it - not sure if I ever will, to be honest.  It's hard when it feels like everything you have worked for up to this point is slipping through your fingers.

There is enough info on this excellent site to build yourself a compelling case to present for your BHR mate;  I hope you get some kind of resolution, and that it happens soon.

[hernanu]

I'm actually on the paleo diet (the caveman variation), don't know if it reduces inflammation, but one of the components of mine is taking fish oil pills, which have anti inflammatory qualities.

I gave up on trying to figure out the why of things, just focused on the fact that I had OA and taking the steps to get rid of it. You describe your plans and accomplishments slipping through your fingers, and in some respects, as has already happened, you are prevented from doing the things you worked for.

The good thing, though is that it may not be a permanent thing. I wouldn't dare to tell you anything about your job or career, but if the physical limitations of OA are damping your career, then maybe the lifting of the same will go a long way to reviving it. There's two sides to this river, you just need to go through the struggles to get to the other side.

I understand the depressive side of this disease, the constant pain, the fear of upcoming pain and the embarrassment at any age of walking so differently from the way you did even a few years before. Being young, you also don't want an old man's disease - if someone tears their rotator, everyone seems to understand that it's an injury, but you mention arthritis and all eyebrows seem to rise.

It's a disease though, and not your fault - remember that you were doing it to serve and protect. Just step forward, get the thing fixed and maybe the things that slipped through your fingers can be there again for you.

[Tin Soldier]

Once again, well put Hern on all of it.

With regards to the bak pain.  I also had back pain, but more sciatic nerve issues before HR.  After it's pretty much all gone.  I think it had to do with me bending over awkwardly and lifting with my back becasue I wasn't bending at the hip.  It's been over a year since my second HR and now, with me starting soccer again, I am getting a little back pain and sicatic nerve issues, but it all goes away on my morning commute on my bike.  I don't do anything for the core in between my weekly soccer matches so I think that's the problem. I'm no spring chicken and I can't expect that all the aches of life will go away from HR, but damn near all of life's aches have gone away.

I have not read many posts about folks complaining about back pain after HR.  There are a few bits here and there about folks having some back pain and other joint pain from getting back to an active lifestyle, body readjusting.  Seems totally reasonable.  I think the vast majority of HR patients have no or less back pain after HR and after the recovery period.

You might PM Vicky at the Yahoo site and just ask her what her thoughts are on it.   

[Anna]

Well said Hern,

I think everyone in life has some kind of medical battle at some point. If having rubbish hips is ours then so be it. Perhaps we should be grateful we can be fixed? I think the mental battle is the hardest thing ... and I think hern has hit the nail on the head there for me. The hardest part for me is telling people I need a hip replacement because people think its some kind of old peoples disease. The first comment I always get is "Oh my granny got one last year". Im getting over this now though and am learning not to care so much what others think. I just want to be well enough again to enjoy my life and get on with my job. In fact, ive made it my mission now to be fixed for my 30th next may. ....  I never thought I would want a metal hip for a 30th bday present!!!! Life hits us all in different ways but you just have to take it on the chin and crack on.

Things havent sliped through our fingers, they have just been delayed .... and like Dave said to me, you have to experience the bad to appreciate the good. I think we will all be better people from our experieces.

Dave - I will race you to the front line sometme in the future. Im sure of it .... and I cant wait! :)

Anna

[Spanielsal]

It'll be a Hippy Birthday...

But, you'll have it before then!  For sure Anna, you'll have your worst hip fixed very soon. Sending Vibes. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Xx

[bilateralbliss]

Just hang on to the thoughts of feeling good again. Red meat Mr MCminn (surgeon in UK who invented the BHR with MrTreacey) reckons is the best food for healing, so get stuck in  :)

[chocolatedrop29]

hey everyone you ladies and gents have been so helpful! thanks so much.

just to keep you updated. i went to see the physio on friday and told her my frustration and had a lil tear unfortunately . clinically i can do deep squat  and no pain and we did glute massage and traction work on the hip. still good range of movement. she suggested to see a psychologist to help me sort out my head. i told her that fitness is just getting harder for me with this 80 years old hip.

i dont want to give up on because the physio and i really worked hard on this hip. we dealt with this the last 2-3 years and we have come a long way.

anyone of y'all see psychologist to get your mental state sorted out?

am i just over reacting with the whole OA situation?

i tried to stay positive but its hard. or am i just being too soft here?

how much pain were you guys before deciding to call it quits and deciding to do something about it?

im not in excruciating or agonising pain but i have noticed that, if i walk too much 30 mins or more, or sit too much 20 mins, the hip just dont like it. and thats just day to day stuff.

i have also heard from dr bose and he said according from my written report, im not warranted major implant surgery yet. but he wants to see the xray first so he can get an idea.

im seeing the doctor in 2 days time and i already have some stuff to present my case to him. any thoughts on what else i can include?

obviously its affecting me mentally, socially, physically and my sleep.

any tips and help would be much appreciated,

thanks again everyone!

jc

[chocolatedrop29]

also im trying to eat as clean as i can, heaps of fruits and been taking supplements like vitamins, fish oil, glucosamine chrondoitin and recently vitamin D. i already figured it out that taking out your frustration on junk foods wont do me any good.

[kamoynsgi]

You can get to a better place and you are not alone.  It's tough that this has affected you at a young age and it is hard to stay positive but as others have said this is curable and you do have options.  Just focus on that and take on board all the good advice on finding a suitable, qualified surgeon. 

Only you will know when to take the decision for surgery, but if as you say walking too much (30 mins!) or sitting too much (20 mins!) is causing you pain, it's not good long term. 

Forget the fact that what you have is generally considered a condition that affects 'older people'.  This site will show you that this is not the case  and I'm sure many of the members on this site have experienced the 'why me? feelings, I know I have!  It's only natural to feel aggrieved!

Don't give up on the exercise and healthy eating, supplements, but this is not going to essentially get you better, keep up with your research on what is the best option for you.  Debilitating as OA is, it does not define you, you are more than this so difficult as it sometimes is, don't let it get the better of you.

Here's hoping you have a good meeting with your Doctor.

Ka

[Dannywayoflife]

Jc if I'm honest I could do with seeing a shrink as everytime I manage to force some positivity into my head I go to the gym and my hip/shoulder is in bits and that's me back to square 1!
It's not something that I've really thought about though as I'm broke and couldn't afford it.

[chocolatedrop29]

@ ka... thanks man lets hope its a good meeting with the doc in 2 days time! i've tried all that put up or shut up mentality thing but you can only get that far, the condition itself isnt going to change.

@ dan... i have read some of your posts! you inspired me the way you are going with rehabilitation! and as of psychologist, i dont really want to go there or its not something i thought about either... i dont want my physio to think im crazy.

[Dannywayoflife]

JC I think were both probably slightly crazy! ;D

[chocolatedrop29]

Dan this might sound even more crazy but if i ever get the surgery done then, i already plan my physical activities that im sticking with for a year ... tons of power walk, spin bike and swimming for cardio... core stability and heaps of balance exercises and body weight exercises and bikram yoga... im hoping that one day i can still do martial arts like krav maga or wing chun.... or if i want to push the body again then its crossfit "mind over matter" work out! fingers crossed!

[Spanielsal]

JC, send in your X-rays to all the surgeons suggested, see what they say. If they say no, perhaps look at debridement arthroscopy which might get you a couple of years relief. They might take one look at your X-rays and say come in, I'll do you tomorrow! It depends on your pain and only you know about that. If you can't walk, you can't sleep and your life is shrinking then you'll push hard for surgery.  If it is not affecting you too badly you can push it off for a while. Only you can make those decisions. We are all here to chat to.

[Dannywayoflife]

That's not crazy mate I do that all the time. Only thing is I'm soooooo out of shape now that I start training and then feel like crap and so I stop again. I'm so limited right now cos of the new hip and my now wrecked shoulder. But hopefully eventually I'll get back in shape!

[chocolatedrop29]

thanks heaps Sal! the sports physician said on the report 3-4 weeks ago that im limited to "surgical options" it means another arthroscopy will not benefit my hip. THR will be in many years away. but he said if its really getting it to you then, it is really my call. he said he's seen people same age as me getting THR done. to be honest i would like to stay away from THR.. theres too many limitations and the more you are active the more you will wear the implants. there's dislocation issues. with resurfacing, if it ever fails then at least the next revision would be THR.. if the first THR fails then the revision would be a little more complicated right?

i have noticed that the last 5 months sleep was irregular, lost of appetite (im eating as clean as i can but i found myself skipping meals), low energy levels and moody...are these normal? did you get these symptoms pre op?

[Dannywayoflife]

You could try cortisone mate. It sounds to me like your medical team are being difficult. Get opinions from other top hip resurfacing surgeons mate

[chocolatedrop29]

Dan, how are you out of shape now? i thought you've been going consistently all this time... how long did you have a lay off? take it easy on the shoulder...is it rotator cuff problems??

i had the cortisone on the hip joint already at the start of august. that didnt do much... im still trying to push the body (going hard on rehab) and squeeze out all the juice i can in me but i can't seem to find the energizer bunny in me no more.

i've only just seen sports physician dan. but the one i have is one of the best in the state. he treats pro footballer and other athletes. im not totally sold out on when he said if i ever get surgery then THR is my only option.